Comments - The M16 Versus the Ak47 in a Detailed Comparison
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They could've saved 4 minutes of time and just had a duel between a marine and an insurgent.
dirty bertie from number 30 [ban] | Dec 14 07 : 4:42am
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I have no other word to expell it.
dirty bertie from number 30 [ban] | Dec 14 07 : 4:51am
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dirty bertie - you having something useful to say today or just whine as usual?
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dirty bertie - well, it didn't surprise me that you would just whine as usual.
thearchangel - you should be lucky that you are just talking like that though the internet, I bet you didn't dare to talk about my parents in real life, if so you could be sure on that you wouldn't come back to United States of Asshole. either shut the fuck up or fuck off this site.. you are not wanted in here.
tdwj - well, there aren't many protentials terrorist here in western european countries, if so they get imprison. but first fix your gay country to AmericASS
thearchangel [ban] | Dec 14 07 : 6:16am
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Goli- you should have taken that 1 thumbs up and shoved it up your ass along with the thumbs of your 72 male virgins (meaning you'd be dead, before your idiot ass isn't able to catch my drift).
Oh yeah, and showing how a gun works is so much more sick that seeing a religious nutbag saw off a non-muslims head with a kitchen knife, huh?
Why couldn't your dad have fucked a camel to pass the time instead of your fat mother?!
Cho Seung Hui [ban] | Dec 19 07 : 6:37pm
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Oh, Nice one archangel, Are you Jewish? Most Jews team with America to spew Hate Speech against Muslims
dirty bertie from number 30 [ban] | Dec 14 07 : 5:08am
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Wow, John Goodman certainly knows his assault rifles. Pity his Chinese is so poor, I couldn't read a word he was saying.
dirty bertie from number 30 [ban] | Dec 14 07 : 5:15am
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Sorry 'bout cluttering up the opening comments guys, hit the wrong button there.(Hangs head in shame)
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First a new test stick the AK up Goli the Sand Toads asss and the M16 up Osamas ass. Better yet they could stick them up each others asses. Then pull the trigger to the tune of alla akbar alala akbar. Tea bagging fags. I all ways wondered where the guy the idea for 2 girls 1 cup. It was from watching you two shit eating Toads.
bertomsons [ban] | Dec 14 07 : 4:32am
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whoa
now i can apply all that knowledge on my counter strike playing. thank you, nothing toxic!
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This was really sick, it's just show how sick of a country America is, this you wouldn't ever find in western european country and not even Britain as much as the british fellow would like to in here. it's sick that they show how the guns even work publicly.. sick.. I have no other word to expell it.
ummmm, Yeah [ban] | Dec 14 07 : 4:45am
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The goli is a troll, I have no other word to explain it, just a troll ![]()
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Regaqrding the vid...its silly to compare two weapons like this. I used an R4 and an R5 weapon(based on the AK) and both gave varying degrees of results when coming to grouping/accuracy. It all depends largely on the individual shooter and the way he sets up his sights. If the visd was true no-one would ever have been hit with round fired from an AK47.
One thing they do not mention in the vid is the sheer indestructibility of the AK 47 which has made it the most successful weapon around. You can leave it buried in mud/sand for weeks, pull it out jam a clip in and literally fire the rifle clean. The MI6 would be hard to find cause of the amount of rust it would have had. Same with the R4 and R5.
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I bet I've fired 10,000 plus Ak rounds over the years.
This vid is complete bullshit. Aside from rifles like the (.222 .223. etc.) the Ak is top notch.
Almost never jammed either. Unlike the AR-15 & AR 70 I've compared it to @ the range.
I love America & do not like to say so...but the AK (a quality one mine was A wooden stock Kalashnikov) out shot, out performed, out grouped, out everythinged the others.
I have NOT compared it to our newer model M-16 though.
Thats all.
Good morning everyone!
-GG
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Yeah, in the Corps today you're not even allowed to use burst. I sometimes tell my Marines "this is burst, this function is used by men who have no marksmanship skills. Marines do not use this function." By the way, I'm a rifle and pistol marksmanship instructor for 10th Marines.
TigerWapWap [ban] | Dec 14 07 : 8:51am
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youve never owned sh1t and youve never shot shit cus you aint sh1t and never will be sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeet, b1tch.
GG.
(ps. i sign my comments because im gay.)
Explosivo333 [ban] | Dec 14 07 : 5:42am
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maybe in the battlefield of some decades ago the AK47 would take the cake, but in modern warfare the M16 lights shit up hard, machine guns are pointless in todays wars unless they are mounted on a chopper
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Guy will make a great pin up
maybe in the battlefield of some decades ago the AK47 would take the cake, but in modern warfare the M16 lights shit up hard, machine guns are pointless in todays wars unless they are mounted on a chopper
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Last time I went to Vegas I went with my ex-bf to the firing range and got to shoot the american rifle here (m16?) and it was fucking amazing, not that I have much to compare it to, but it made my whole week. I think I reloaded about 6 times. I'd love to try the other rifle in the video next time.....
TigerWapWap [ban] | Dec 14 07 : 11:00am
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when i was in the army i used both of these weapons aand can confidently say MY DICK shoots much faster and further than either of the 2. Just ask yer mums.
I Eat Pussy Cats [ban] | Dec 14 07 : 7:29am
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The STFU cause your jst complaining for no reason....any way... I liked this video. why? As much as we hate war it is apart of humanity, so as someone who likes to study anthropology, I am interested into the desings of weapon.....plus i know war history....plus plus guns are cool (to watch on the PC)
I Eat Pussy Cats [ban] | Dec 14 07 : 7:38am
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The goli STFU cause your just complaining for
explosive intensity [ban] | Dec 14 07 : 7:49am
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That's nothing. I have a double barreled, hand held, semi-automatic, pump action rocket launcher which is made out of antimantium and never requires reloading. I'm not bragging...
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The problem with very powerful full-jacketed rounds is that when they hit a person they pass clean through making little internal damage. I've heard the 5.56 x 45mm NATO round is one hell of a motherfucker when it hits someone at close range, fragmenting and doing major internal damage, increasing the likelihood of major internal bleeding.
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I have an AR-15 short 16" Bull barrel SS freefloat, MIL Spec as well as a milled receiver Russian Geniune AK-47, very nice quality. The M16 AR15 is about the same weight to to bull barrel and much more accurate than the AK-47, reliability is the same. Things have changed with the M16/AR15, it is now a premiere and reliable weapon much more accurate and better all around than the AK47.
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Just had to create an account to comment here...
I have a fair amount of experience with both of these weapons, and I must say that end over end, the AK-47 is the perfect weapon. The guy shooting the 200m target was a jerk-off... I thought everyone knew that a decently trained person with an AK-47 can easily act as a sniper at that distance.
The M-16, until it's recent updates (including eliminating full auto) was and pretty much still is underpowered, certainly prone to jamming - in fact you had to clean it pretty much every time you fired it or else you'd be charging with a bayonet on a useless fucking stick.
The AK-47 can be dropped in water and covered in sand, used to pry open doors - or blow fucking holes in them. A skilled marksman can used one as a sniper rifle as I said before, or it can tear an enemies vehicle to shreds.
In todays military, the M-16 is a smart choice I'm sure. The modern approach (which doesn't work) is hit and run in urban situations. Which means every soldier stays in his bunk that night safe and sound, cleaning kits are available because soldiers don't spend days or weeks in the field, the ammo is light, and the gun is pretty much disposable.
If you were to put me in command of a small group of men, they'd learn guerrilla tactics, and how to use an AK-47 - and I'm confident you could stack 5 : 1 guys with M-16s against them, and my boys would win.
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I totally agree, my friend is a Veteran and has alot of experience with both weapons and he prefers the AK-47 over the M-16 aswell, mostly for the same reasons, the Ak tears through most anything and can be dropped submerged in water sand whatever and still fire, as where the M-16 is very prone to jamming even when using it's three round burst, also there is a sniper variant of the russian AK-47 that is a great sniper rifle, just a little add-on there... ![]()
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That was without question ,the worst gun ever made and another reason to dislike the French...Open magzines that would clog on anything, a barrel that was machined with a hammer and a screwdriver... it's best when thrown at an attacker after it malfunctioned .....which was often ![]()
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Just had to create an account to comment here...I have a fair amount of experience with both of these weapons, and I must say that end over end, the AK-47 is the perfect weapon. The guy shooting the 200m target was a jerk-off... I thought everyone knew that a decently trained person with an AK-47 can easily act as a sniper at that distance. The M-16, until it's recent updates (including eliminating full auto) was and pretty much still is underpowered, certainly prone to jamming - in fact you had to clean it pretty much every time you fired it or else you'd be charging with a bayonet on a useless fucking stick.The AK-47 can be dropped in water and covered in sand, used to pry open doors - or blow fucking holes in them. A skilled marksman can used one as a sniper rifle as I said before, or it can tear an enemies vehicle to shreds. In todays military, the M-16 is a smart choice I'm sure. The modern approach (which doesn't work) is hit and run in urban situations. Which means every soldier stays in his bunk that night safe and sound, cleaning kits are available because soldiers don't spend days or weeks in the field, the ammo is light, and the gun is pretty much disposable. If you were to put me in command of a small group of men, they'd learn guerrilla tactics, and how to use an AK-47 - and I'm confident you could stack 5 : 1 guys with M-16s against them, and my boys would win.
http://www.youtube.com/wa tch?v=fNNCJ85ixv0
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Your opinion is respected, however im quite experienced with both weapons as well and love both. However advancements to the M16/AR15 have made it a superior weapons in all aspects. Take for example the HK -416/ US HK project a weapon based on the M16 design with out the introduction of hot grasses or powder in to the bolt area. There is simply nothing like it in the world and will be the most reliable weapon made. Feel free to look it up http://www.youtube.com/wa tch?v=fNNCJ85ixv0
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Validated on Dec 14 07 : 11:54am wrote:Your opinion is respected, however im quite experienced with both weapons as well and love both. However advancements to the M16/AR15 have made it a superior weapons in all aspects. Take for example the HK -416/ US HK project a weapon based on the M16 design with out the introduction of hot grasses or powder in to the bolt area. There is simply nothing like it in the world and will be the most reliable weapon made. Feel free to look it up http://www.youtube.com/wa tch?v=fNNCJ85ixv0Sure, which is why I mentioned recent advancements, of course I am not experienced with the modern incarnation of the M-16. I have to be old school though, especially considering the fact that this question between AK-47s and M-16s is even raised... The AK-47 is and always will be a relevant weapon, you'll never see a man that has one drop it for an M-16, ever. It's like comparing PCs(ak) to MACs(m16). I'll take the reliable, non-proprietary one. Thers's one thing PC users can do that MAC users can't, after all... that's shut the fuck up and use it.
spacemonkey1233 [ban] | Dec 14 07 : 10:31am
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i don't know man but they are both sweet weapons in CS. I prefer the AK cuz it just kills easier and it is very accurate, just the recoil bites you in the ass.
and that is my inexperienced opinion.
TigerWapWap [ban] | Dec 14 07 : 11:10am
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i used to use a fully automatic rocket launcher with infinite ammo and depleted uranium tips, beat that b1tches!
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i used to use a fully automatic rocket launcher with infinite ammo and depleted uranium tips, beat that b1tches!
Mossberg 500 [ban] | Dec 14 07 : 12:43pm
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If I had to carry a rifle into harms way I would choose neither and take a FAL or a G3 instead ![]()
Necramonium [ban] | Dec 14 07 : 1:52pm
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basicly the video says,use the m16 for long shots,and the ak47 for close range...
Evangelist - evils agent [ban] | Dec 14 07 : 2:04pm
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m16 long range as long as there not hiding behind small blocks of wood.Then use the A.K!
apparently you'll never get to heaven with an A.K 47
so i suppose killing with the M16 is ok with god ![]()
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Hey everyone, I have a totally honest, non sarcastic question for everyone here: who has actually been in combat, fired at and been fired upon? I'm just wondering if people's opinions on these weapons are subjective or actually based on real combat experience.....thanks
Mossberg 500 [ban] | Dec 14 07 : 6:24pm
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Hey everyone, I have a totally honest, non sarcastic question for everyone here: who has actually been in combat, fired at and been fired upon? I'm just wondering if people's opinions on these weapons are subjective or actually based on real combat experience.....thanks
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That is true. Most of these are range and material tested.
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The troops tell a different story...but will stick with what they got the most ammo for.
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There is only so many things that a range test can tell you about small arms.
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This Guy (I can't remember his name) is a fucking legend in the historian world. As soon as I am in the US, he's museum is the first that I'll go to.
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Dehydrated Manatee [ban] | Dec 14 07 : 3:01pm
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Take notice that they're comparing the AK to the classic Vietnam era M16. The classic M16 wasn't as good as the ones we have now.
Mother_Man [ban] | Dec 14 07 : 3:32pm
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I'd choose the AK-47 cause i find it sexier, and it's cheaper so i can afford to buy much more ammo, that way i'll get much more kills at school. (joke)
AK47heaven [ban] | Dec 14 07 : 3:37pm
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shoots through cement walls, cars and its good for glaucoma too
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I can piss for 3 minutes...20 feet out...after only
I could "light yer ass up" with my "Daisy" BB gun and don't EVEN get me started on my slingshot - i could bust a glass marble cap in yo ass from bout 50 yards - well, maybe 50 ft
and, just like da bomb, i can blast dem fukkin cigarette butts right outta da water in da urinal after 5-6 brewskis - every time!!
indyman911 [ban] | Dec 14 07 : 4:42pm
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"This is my rifle, this is my gun...This is for fight, and this is for fun..."
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RetiredAFbadman [ban] | Dec 14 07 : 5:18pm
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These weapons are for the most part, exactly as presented. The AK is a spray everything in sight and the M16 (and M4 carbine) is more of a rifle. I have only been in combat twice for a total of 2 hours or so in Somalia. It is not pleasant and NOT like in the movies. They were using AK's but not with any precision. Also keep in mind they were not professionally trained soldiers. They ALWAYS fired on full auto and you could almost always follow the line of fire straight up over 10 feet by the time they pushed out 10 or 15 rounds. At 300ft, one inch of the barrel going up (due to muzzle blast) translates to several feet. But then again, all it takes is one round and you're done.
Mossberg 500 [ban] | Dec 14 07 : 6:12pm
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They ALWAYS fired on full auto
Sk1Monster [ban] | Dec 14 07 : 6:41pm
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I've only got experience with the M-16A2 so as far as accuraccy - the M16 wins I could shoot an asshole from 500 yds but power...I guess the AK wins....so really the M-16 wins cause if you cant shoot dick for what youre aiming at then a weapon has no use. Yut!
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Thanks Mossberg, I just thought I'd ask because I was just wondering how practical opinions on weaponry would be if not battle tested---my ex bf was in the security/bodyguard field and told me that most gunfights happen at really close range, and that adrenaline and panic would often play a huge part in detemining what would happen in battle? If that were true wouldn't training and capability and experience be just as important as the actual rifle you were using?
chiechie1979 [ban] | Dec 14 07 : 10:29pm
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i haven't been in a battle situation but have spent alot of time on the range with both weapons......you can't really FEEL the power diff. when shooting at paper targets.......they feel close BUT accuracy deff. goes to the m16/14 i would pick that rifle over the ak anyday....and its true when they say they sounds diff...
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having been in the military myself the m16 nice and light and accurate but underpowered the ak47 powerfull reliable great street fighter. i prefered the FN/fal 7.62/51 .308win SLR heavy beasty accurate and the 7.62 is devastating at all ranges and it used the same round as the m60
ChimpyChompy [ban] | Dec 15 07 : 3:55am
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I saw a documentary a while ago about the M16. It shoots a small caliber round but is very effective against living targets as its bullets 'topple' on impact and fragment into several smaller pieces, causing loads of internal injuries to the person on the receiving end. This apparently wasn't intended by the manufacturers but is a major reason why it's still so successful today.
dirty bertie from number 30 [ban] | Dec 15 07 : 6:07am
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Never usually post on old topics, I keep coming back to this one as it actually features an intelligent discussion by people who are genuinely knowledgable on the subject, which makes a real change from the usual juvenile comments by people like..er..me.
Seriously,
and much props to any vets or servicemen on this site.
Shamsul007 [ban] | Dec 15 07 : 11:23am
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Made for different armies to do different jobs.
The AK is made for poorly trained soldiers with little marksmanship skills and used on full auto to overwelm the enemy humanwave style.
The M-16 is made to be used by soldiers with good marksmanship skills to hit targets out to 500 yards.
My choice for urban or jungle combat would be the AK but in the desert or in any other open terrain the 16 is better.
manicdemise [ban] | Dec 17 07 : 11:20pm
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M16 original, which i believe this video is about, is a notoriously shit rifle , it was more renowned for jamming then the first SA-80..as for the ak47 well you could take a shit ni the chamber and it would still work, also lack of easily clog able and reasonably quick warn parts..and in Vietnam with the quite dense jungle , meant the ak47 had the upper hand ...also you have to remember ak47 was made just after world war 2 the m16 was coming around in the 60's..even then many us soldiers said they prefer the guns they all ready had over the m16 and the majority of north Vietnamese soldiers didn't even have m16 and still won.
and to put it a simple way you could get a old unused ak47 and it would work..not so sure about an old m16 ....
or to put it even simpler of course the marine would win cos he'd just call in a gun ship and melt the fucker down to his fillings ![]()
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The Colt M16-A2, M4 carbine or the canadian made Diemaco C7 and C8 SFW are chosen over the AK-47 and its variants by the British special forces (The most highly trained regiments in the most respected and profesional army in the world) for one main reason the 5.56 round.
Those not in the know would think that the larger 7.62 round of the AK would be better but this will kill you outright if hit. The 5.56 tumbles upon impact causing massive internal injuries which tie up you enemies resources with casualty treatment and evacution whereas a dead soldier can be left until after a firefight to deal with. Plus in a world where everything is filmed and politically sensitive the smaller 5.56 round dosent go straight through your target to kill an innocent bystander.
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Exactly...these are things that should be taken into account.
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Well Said mate....you know ya stuff.
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Our Steyrs arn't as powerful, but the light wieght weapon and the quick interchangable barrels bring many benefits.
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And place the shots right and it's still bye bye towely anyway.
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They are only using the normal 16 here. There are variants that are better.
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bloodrunner [ban] | Apr 18 08 : 11:40pm
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I dont care about the comparison.
The AK fuckn blows doors on the m16.
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used to own an AK-47, liked it very much, I cleaned it like twice a year and I used to go shooting every weekend. also owned a G-3, the rifle blows but it does some major damage. they call it the "shoulder tank" down in mid east. but the AK-47 has been around for over half a century. if it wasn't the best gun for the buck, it would've never lsted this long.
Baghdadbillybob [ban] | Aug 10 08 : 2:46am
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The AK is the third world choice as it is cheap and it is simple to disassemble and maintain. If you got the bucks go with an M-4. Mine has never let me down... ![]()
kimbabilis [ban] | May 28 09 : 9:33am
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I have two M16 at home, my neighbor at Gaza used to have an Ak47, thats so sad!
zdrastvutye [ban] | Sep 14 09 : 7:34pm
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imagine someone could shoot down a jumbo jet with a small ak47 bullet (dont say things like that at the passenger checkin), hahaha.
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TheGoli [ban] | Dec 14 07 : 4:28am
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This was really sick, it's just show how sick of a country America is, this you wouldn't ever find in western european country and not even Britain as much as the british fellow would like to in here. it's sick that they show how the guns even work publicly.. sick.. I have no other word to expell it.