Comments - Train Shooting New Angle - This Cop is so Screwed
category: Shocking | views: 138044 | posted on: 01/08/2009
I spliced together two new versions of the BART train shooting in oakland. The first is from the news and shows the exact point when the dumb cop's gun goes off, the second is the actual footage and reaction of the victim's friends.
illegalimmigrant [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 4:10am
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his gonna be getting it from a bunch of different angles.
paintedhorse [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 4:13am
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thats a different view from yeaterday , i seen no reason for that cop to shoot.
sweetknucklepie [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 12:33pm
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That cop, Johhanes Mehserles, resigned right before he was to be interviewed by internal affairs. WTF, is he Vic Mackey now?
illegalimmigrant [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 4:29am
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TODAY...........I..CONSID ER...MYSELF........THE... ..MOST...LUCKIEST...BORDE R.....HOPPING............ .ILLEGALIMMIGRANT.....ON. ...THE..FACE..OF..THE.... EARTH. I FUCKEN DIDNT NOTICE MY FACE THERE TILL NOW. WOW IM SPEACHLESS...
WHO DIDNT GET ONE... THIS MADE MY DAY. ![]()
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Don't resist or fight the cops, and just obey what they say and you won't get shot. Not saying that should have happened here, but obviously the dude wasn't cooperating and was pissing them off. I don't like a lot of cops, and I've met some pricks, but I would expect shit to happen to me if I started resisting.
en jaywest [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 4:54am
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"Don't resist or fight the cops, and just obey what they say and you won't get shot."
are you serious?
fuck off, retard. the police train for all situations. they should be able to diffuse most situations without so much as raising their voice, let alone drawing their gun. there are cops in newark and paterson who have never unholstered their gun their entire career, but this cop gets tired of a guy on the ground resisting, so he shoots him??? resisting arrest WILL get you fucked up, thats a given. but, we are talking about a human life, regardless of how you feel about the resister.
police are supposed to be able to determine if a deadly threat was not PRESENT, but if their life was in IMMEDIATE danger. this cop just got pissed off and shot the guy.
i am not a cop basher, but this was clearly wrong, just as your comment was truly moronic.
hubbledriver [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 5:35am
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you say "by the look on the cops face,it looked accidental"are you nuts,these are highly trained state police.you DONT just PULL the trigger.if anything he knew that a lot of people on/off the train had already filmed the whole.
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nakedrasta007 [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 6:54am
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Thank goodness for recent advancements in technology.
This shit happens thousands of times. And I'm sure on a daily base too.
Do you know how many cops have gotten away with that shit simply because there was no evidence or witness?!?! If it wasn't in a subway jam-packed full of people, they probably would have planted a gun on him too.
If you have a cellphone, you're a reporter/cameraman. Everybody is watching now.
It's so bad that I'm even afraid to wack my 8 mo. rottweiler when he misbehaves...fuck around and catch a charge from ASPCA or PETA.
This COP is screwed, his body language says it all. Anyone notice how he threw his hands on his head like "wtf just happened"
IMPORTANT QUESTIONS
- Why was his gun drawn in the first place?
- Where was the danger?
- Wasn't he sufficiently secured with the 90 cops around him and kneeling on his back?
If anyone has ever fired a gun, it needs to be cocked to fire that easily, or anything close to an accidental discharge. If not cocked, you have to pull that trigger substantially HARD ENOUGH TO FIRE A SHOT.
this cop is fucked, 09 will not be kind to him...neither would his cop-hating cellmates!
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Newer guns (if youve ever fired one) have a interior hammer that does not have a de-cocker (Springfield XD-9 XD-40 & almost all Glocks...), and as long as a round is in the chamber, the hammer is cocked. You cant carry around a gun that does not have a round in the chamber and expect to use it in a situation...
nakedrasta007 [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 10:12am
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Beeski, you dumb-ass...
First off, like most law inforcement in the Bay area. BART police standard issue fire arm is a Sig-Sauer .40-cal semi-auto pistol. IT DOES HAVE A DECOCKER!
Like most sig arms with DA (double action), this model when firing, the trigger pull is about 8.5 lbs. If the trigger is released all the way forward, this will engage the primary trigger reset and have a trigger pull of 6.5b lbs.
Standard SIG Pros do not have a manual safety but do incorporate a decocking lever.
Either way, 6.5, 8.5 lbs on your index finger is not like flicking a fly...
See, I is a violent rasta and I prolly know more about guns that you do.
Besides, what did I tell you about interrupting with grown-ups are talking?!?!?!
GO TO YOUR ROOM!!!!!!!!
And don't sass me boy! and don't even think of
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and slap the shit out you boy and then you'll be
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At that point I'll just reach for a
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Double Action Only handguns (XD's, Glocks, etc.) don't have a hammer, they have a striker.
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My XD-45 has an official trigger pull of 5.5-7.7 pounds. I personally think it is an easy pull. I checked Sig Sauer's site and checked their specs. Hammer down is 10 pounds, cocked is 4.4. Neither is really that much in my opinion. But I will say that I tested several handguns before purchasing mine, and I could consistently fire double taps faster with a double action over a DAO every time.
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The integrated safety in most DOA's is built into the trigger. Mine also has a secondary safety built into the grip. If you don't apply pressure to both simutaneously, it won't discharge. Not sure about my XD, but I'm pretty sure that a Glock has a plate that goes between the primer and the striker that disengages when the safety is depressed. This means that even if the striker malfunctions, it will hit the plate and not the cartridge thus keeping it from going off.
vulturedoors [ban] | Jan 9 09 : 12:18am
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Actually, cops of a certain rank (Sergeant and above, I believe), are permitted to carry a sidearm of their choice. It doesn't have to be the issued one. San Jose cops seem to like Glocks. Dunno about BART cops.
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If he knew everybody was filming, then why would he pull the trigger on purpose? That makes no sense unless he wants to go to prison.
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Highly trained is one thing. Highly experienced is another. Most people can't handle their own adrenaline unless they are used to it's effects (which only comes with experience).
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This wasn't an execution. It was manslaughter.
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And I wouldn't call a BART officer highly trained. I'll readily admit that I normally take the cop's side but only if the evidence presented represents that. This cop was wrong. I have no idea what was going through his mind but from everything I've seen, this was an accident by someone who made a poor decision. Someone who is not capable of carrying a gun. He either
1) Thought he grabbed his taser but how the fuck can you not tell the difference?
2) Meant to pull his gun as a show of force and accidentally pulled the trigger. Which was stupid at the time in such a close situation and when someone was more of a peace threat than a physical threat. Strong arm tactics would have been more appropriate.
Either way, the guy is fucked and another guy is dead. The dead guy didn't help the situation but did not deserve that fate.
sweetknucklepie [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 4:50am
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The cop was more nervous than the handcuffed suspect, even though no one knows what he was suspected of.
NickManning [ban] | Jan 10 09 : 1:24am
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you obviously have not been to new york in a while
we don't have much graffiti in the subways anymore
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Call me a liar if you want, but I am an expert on police use of force and police procedure with 24 years experience. For the life of me I cannot figure out why he pulled out his gun under those circumstances. Can't imagine he would execute someone with all those witnesses. All I can figure is he let the situation control him, screwed up and meant to draw a tazer. Again - no reason to pull a firearm. Too much risk of having it taken away, it ties up one hand, and you risk accidental discharge.
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wow let me guess his father is the chief of police, oh no his uncle is. no wait the judge is a family member too, I guess he got away with it, imagine if the kid was black cause you know he is going to get away with it. it would have been rodney king part 2 fucking stupid asshole cops!!!!!!
bluetahoe99 [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 9:20am
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If it wasnt for the wet titties in your avatar I'd ban your ass
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ToxicStuff [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 6:01am
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well, if the passengers were so upset, why doesn't anyone get off the train and make a fuss?
big deal staying on the train and shouting!
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^^^^^^^^^ the best BART!
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http://uk.youtube.com/wat ch?v=cznha2YTTh0
this clip becomes relevant at the 00;31 second slot.
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Listen, the suspect was in the wrong and knows it. If he were innocent, he would be the one filming it. I dont think the cop should have shoot him, but I do feel that if he were doing what the police officer said, he would not have been thrown on the ground in the first place. When you know your doing something wrong, you also know there are consequences... Personally, I think America is way too light on the "bad guys". Look at every other country and tell me Im wrong...
melittlerascal1 [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 10:40am
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What Beeski? He would be on the floor, face down, restrained, with knees in his back...filming with a cellphone camera?
BRIAN!!! what have I told you about allowing retards in here!?!?!?
As for SWATMAN's comment below; well said and I agree with your logic and philosophy.
However, that excuse/reason doesn't fly one bit with me!!!!!!!!!!! THAT'S TOTAL AND UTTER BULLSHIT THAT HE WAS REACHING FOR HIS TASER, NO NO NO YOU CAN'T CONVINCE ME!
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A loaded Sig-Sauer weighs nearly three times as much as an X26 Taser and is taller by about 2 inches... dynamics of the two aren't even closely related, only thing they have in common is that they both have triggers.
How long was this officer on the force? 3 DAYS!?!?! if that's the case, he shouldn't be out in the field, especially on New Year's Day where the nation's finest drunks and mayhem are sure to be abound.
Fuck that! Try a different theory. ![]()
SWATMAN354 [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 7:23am
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Read most of the posts and I somewhat agree w/ a lot of 'em. I am almost certain that this guy thought he was pulling his taser. Most officers carry their taser holster either just in front or just to the rear of their primary weapon. Adrenaline and lack of maturity (from the looks of this baby faced kid) probably had a lot to do with it as well.
It sucks that the young man died and I feel for his family. Until we have a real and true transformation of society (having respect for law and order...and you all know there is none. I am not talking about for "law enforcement", but law and order...some posters here are proof of that) and the weeding out of officers who tend to be way too emotional and immature these events will keep happening.
Unfortunately, we will never get there. "People" in general don't want to be told what to do and have NO respect for others THEN try to force their own way into lives of other people. Then 5-0 comes into the picture and "Katie bar the door" no one is going to listen until someone goes to jail or (in this case) gets shot.
Extricator [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 7:45am
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You have no right to resist arrest. Your best and safest bet is to simply comply.
He resisted,now he is dead.
Exactly what did his resistance accomplish ? Nothing,absolutely nothing.
All those who advocate for resisting the cops,all your doing is perpetuating the cycle. The cops will win,each time,and every time.
If he had followed the simple instructions of the police,he would be alive now.
All this comes down to peoples inability to follow simple instructions.
Get down on the floor,and put your hands behind your back. Wow really tough instructions to follow there. His inability to follow those simple instructions cost him his life.
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Wrongfully cost him his life. I don't care if he shook his head and kicked his feet while he was thrown to the ground. He should not have lost his life to some rookie cock (I meant cop, but after seeing this mispell decided not to change it) that missed his dose of prozac that day.
ItsAllGoodInDaHood [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 7:51am
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South Parks Officer Barbrady is smarter than this cunt ![]()
killastone [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 7:52am
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Had 2 young men been in a scuffle, and one pulled out a gun and shot the other its murder. So why when a officer of the law does this is it not a crime. And as far as police in America being light on crime BEESKI your nuts, since when does disorderly conduct require a officer to discharge his firearm onto a unarmed civilian. This is whats wrong with United States, Way to many police officers are pussy and should'nt have badges. they really need a new screening method. So sick of seeing people shot by cops, simply because they can shoot them , and have legal rights to carry a firearm.
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GUILTY - of stoopidity - the actions of the kid dint even justify a tazer - some people just should NOT be allowed to handle weapons, or make decisions - this dork is obviously one of them.
don't even wanna hear dat BS, "he shunt have resisted" - theres "right" and theres "wrong" - THIS WAS "WRONG" - period ![]()
ItsAllGoodInDaHood [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 1:39pm
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...and in the rest of the world they shoot first and think nothing of it after ![]()
jimmydeen8 [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 8:24am
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One day they are going to shoot the straw that breaks the camels back and all hell is going to break loose all over the country. ![]()
colchesterscott [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 8:28am
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rip dead dude if he had a gun out then yeah you get shot but he didnt he just said NO i dont think he expected an overzealous copper to shoot him ![]()
DeathLeHeM [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 8:39am
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Icant belive the cop was that close and didnt even get a head shot
double stroke [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 9:09am
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accidental discharge or sheer stupidity.... in NYPD, you are told that your firearm is not a tool of apprehension
mistaking a glock 9mm for a taser is probably going to be the officers defense... a woefully inadequate defense but thats all he's got. there was absolutely no reason to use deadly physical force in that scenario.
maybe the cop will sue the manufacturers for making the taser look too much like his familiar firearm...sue the department for improper training and issue said taser.
choirboy or crook, nobody deserves to get shot in the back, cuffed, in the prone position, with another cop's knee on your neck
evillizardeye [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 9:20am
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be a cop and shooter, or be a human and get shot
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"Resisting Arrest" Not normally what really happens but widely accepted as excuse for mace, taze, punched, kicked, clubbed... And now shot and killed. You can almost read their thought immediately after as they looked at each other. "How we gonna cover this up?"
Stupid fuckers have too many utensils on their utility belt. Dumb fuck forgot one was LETHAL. No excuse. On purpose or by mistake they got you committing murder from several angles fuckneck.
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Unfortunely for the victim the officer was ill trained, it wasnt hate motivated. I do believe it was, what is called involuntary reflex. The rookie, 1 should have not drawn his weapon, 2 should have kept his finger off the trigger, 3 senior officer should have told him to holster, because the subject was already subdued. Maybe he thought he was going for the taser, I don't know the facts and I will not be ignorant and judge someone just by a video clip. None the less he will be held accountable for his actions, and I hope the victim did not die and recovers physically. Lesson to officers out there it is your duty to be trained properly "to serve and protect", and for the general public resisting can lead to a more serious outcome.
melittlerascal1 [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 11:34am
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ahhhh Mavs...he's dead!
that's why this is as serious as it is!
Necramonium [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 10:46am
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I got the feeling the cop tried to grab maze maybe but grabbed his gun instead.
JoeSixPack [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 11:18am
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Try that shit in Texas and the cop would have been shot by about half a dozen concealed weapon carrying rednecks.
FUNeralforagod [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 2:32pm
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yea he really deserved to die JUST for supposedly being a smart ass... u fucking cunt stfu
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By this angle it looks as if the officer thought he was pulling his TASER and accidentally pulled his service pistol. You can clearly see the flabergasted look on his face (like oh my God, what have I just done!). MAJOR FUCKING ERROR THERE BUDDY.....he must have skipped the "Controlling your adrenaline" class in police academy school.
im spethal [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 11:56am
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fucking americans
the 'resisting' now dead bloke looked black...the cop was white...now lets see some more race riots and maybe find another black mass murderer not fucking guilty. for a country that self appoints itself as the police of the world...clean up your own back fucking yard first ![]()
texasnomad81 [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 12:38pm
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I dont buy the taser story all the police issued tasers i have seen are colored big fucking bird yellow and if this cop doesnt know the difference and the system is turning out dumbfucks like this we are in ALOT OF TROUBLE !!! ![]()
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Obviously this officer thought he was pulling his stun gun out to gain more control over the person in question being resistant if you ever notice a cop look at his holsters you'll see they carry what appear to be two guns however one is a stun gun in the same shape of a real gun pretty easy mistake when your under duress like what this situation was. However you absolutely fucking know this is going to be about race so go on pull your fucking race card black people and always try to turn it into something it is not.
newburghschamp [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 1:29pm
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OH SHIT!!!! I just noticed the advertisement for BANGBROS on this page.... I now contract all the negative things about NT !!!!
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marty31636 [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 2:47pm
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The standard issue firearm is carried in a level 3 holster. Which means you have 3 steps you have to go through to remove it. Snap,Twist,Rock. The standard stun gun does not. The officer looked young. Either he was lacking experienc to be in that situation. Or the young gentlemen got to him and maybe he lost control. I am X law enforcement not an expert but I didn't see any reason for a weapon. My first thought was maybe the taser? But I was in much more hostel situations in my time and didn't draw a weapon. You can see the young officer respond to his mistake and the senior officer step back once the weapon was out. Shrug who knows.
marty31636 [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 2:56pm
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Also want to comment on the Highly trained comments. Passing the Post certification for law enforcement does not a well trained officer make. You need experience. And much more training after the silly POST cert.
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You can clearly hear sane people on the train telling the man stop resisting, and you can clearly hear the rest of the drunks yelling other nonsence. Did not deserve to get shot but could have been prevented if he just stop fucking resisting. "You want to be right but you don't want to be dead right", words i live by from my father
vincepatrick [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 3:08pm
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The cop with his knee in his neck jumped back right before the gun went off. To avoid being shot/tazed? He knew one of the two were comming.
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Hey here's an easy way he could've not gotten shot, DON'T FUCK WITH SOMEONE WITH A GUN!! DUMBASS, who cares if the cop was wrong, it wasn't on purpose that dead guy got himself into that situation and Ooopsie the cop made a mistake and now he's dead. If he kept his stupid mouth shut and did what he was told he'd be alive, if you are getting arrested and it's wrongly so, your not going to convince the cop to not arrest you, how many times have you seen someone plead with the cops that they didn't do anything wrong as they were getting arrested, and of those how many times did you see the cop say "You know what, sir, I apologize I was wrong you're free to go, have a nice day." How much street cred do you get for sitting there talking shit and fighting back?
Looks like this retard OD'd on street cred!
supermegalucky [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 4:43pm
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That was in cold blood. No excuse. Regardless of whether or not the guy was resisting. Firing down into a man that is already prone with another officer restraining him is not justifiable. The heat of the moment schtick, the baby faced and inexperienced schtick, he shouldn't have resisted schtick doesn't fly with this.
I was waiting for the old South Park "He's coming right at me!" gag.
Good bye badge! Hello Bubba!
THISFREAKINGGUY [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 4:58pm
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Bullshit, you wanna be swat faggot.
Most departments FORCE officers to carry their tasers crossdraw for that very reason.
That is just a lame excuse.
If anything, it was just poor training, and he hadn't decocked his gun, so that when he put his finger on the trigger when flicking off safe, it went bang.
Chuck Norris [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 7:14pm
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Good job Police man that bastard deserve it when you get arrested dont fuck with the cops or else you will die and then your death will be posted here on NT for everyone amusement. ![]()
smart ass guy [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 7:38pm
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or tax money just paid for that how dose that make you feel now? ![]()
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Swatman sums it up well. I'd add that the second officer who gets up suddenly before the shot seems to be responding to a "get out of the way I'm gonna tase him".
I'm no taser expert but i guess if you would not want to be in contact with the target when the 50 zillion volt charge goes through
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Level15 [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 7:38pm
So you know stun guns will not transfer from one person to another such as an AC current. 50 zillion funny more like 500,000 volts but obviously with no amp because 70Ma will most certainly kill you. ... less than 1amp can be fatal.
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I'm cop and have been for 10 years. I have also been in a fatal shooting with a man who was shooting at multiple people. I'm not one to bash another officer however I can't believe what I just watched. We carry our tazers on the opposite side of our duty weapon so that there is no chance in hell that we mistake the two. Blind folded I could tell the difference between the two. We are also trained not to have our gun in our hand when we grab with the other as there is a reflex that happens when you grab with one hand the other makes a grabbing motion as well (try it some time). I feel very sorry for the young man and his family and the office's family. The officer has ruined a lot of lives including his own it would appear. Disgraceful.
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For someone who doesn't bash brother officers it looks like you just did. Never had an AD? Never heard of training shootings? Crap happens. It's tragic, but it's also inevitable that if you put a gun in a stress filled situation enough times something bad will eventually occur. Do you know how much time this cop has on the job? Does BART train beyond the basic POST requirements? It’s probably better you don’t try to compare him to yourself.
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It is quite apparent that the shooting was not intentional. However, neither was it excusable, in any way that I can see. Even if it were a taser it would not have been excusable, because it is not acceptable to be tasing somone who is already on the ground, on their stomach.
Tasers were intended to be a "less lethal" weapon... and in fact they have proven to still be lethal in too many cases. They are supposed to be used "in lieu" of guns where appropriate, because they are a less lethal solution. However, some GODDAMNED STUPID police forces have begun to use them in place of any sort of physical contact or force at all, and even to get people who are already under physical control to comply, which is simply WRONG, and DANGEROUS.
I know of at least two people locally who have died as a result (directly or indirectly) of irresponsible tasing by police. All to often it is inappropriate and unacceptable in a civil society.
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By the way, to the person who stated that a taser jolt does not cross from one body to another:
That is only under the "proper" conditions. If conditions become less than ideal, a taser or stungun is capable of bringing an entire chain of people to their knees (or faces), if they are in physical contact. It doesn't happen often, but it certainly can happen.
NeoNitride [ban] | Jan 8 09 : 11:20pm
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Tell me again how the cops are not out of control in this country? Please, some cop or cop-lover tell me the roid raging fuckheads are not opening violating basic law in the name of "crime fighting"?
Even the supreme courts are backing up the BullShit redlight cameras and drunk driving checkpoints which violate our due process rights and search/seizure rights.
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brought a tear to my fuckin eye and im a cold soul most tha fuckin time godammit..
u know that pig cant fight, thats why he was so quick to shoot to prove hes tough but have fun in the prison fighting the real gangstas with real hands without that gun & badge ya bitch
vulturedoors [ban] | Jan 9 09 : 12:27am
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I live in the area where this incident occurred (Oakland, CA). The shooting was accidental. There is, however, a lot of questioning going on about why the officer drew his weapon in the first place -- the suspect was already handcuffed. The incident triggered a riot and a considerable amount of vandalism and violence in the area (who they think they are punishing, I have no idea). The officer who did it is named Johannes Mehserle, and he resigned abruptly today. He is 27, a two-year veteran officer.
filthypigs [ban] | Jan 9 09 : 12:42am
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I can't believe the amount of people on this site that stick up for these pigs and call the people who were out partying scum. You people are brainwashed cowards without a clue about anything in life. Some of the comments yesterday were the stupidest things I've read in my life, that the comment from a fool named boomer that I'm about to post got 6 thumbs up just goes to show how hopelessly stupid some people are... The world would be better off without people like boomer and the people who gave him a thumbs up so congratulations to you all, you're worth less than nothing.
"I can't believe people sit here criticizing police instead of making comments about the animals in that train station. Not that shooting someone is ok when you don't have to but am I the only one that heard those ignorant pieces of shit that created such a volitile situation? Especially Sheniqua with her cell phone taunting them. If one of the cops walked up and shot her in the face I think the world would be a better place for it. You know damn well that if that piece of shit they shot robbed her she'd be the first one telling the police to shoot him.
I'm sorry but I'm far from a racist and wouldn't care if the people in that subway were black or white trash, it's sad that cops who are trying to do their jobs and make the streets safer have to put up with so much bullshit from the same people that will criticize them tomorrow for not doing enough to protect them. How would she like it if someone went to her work and berated her like that? Oh wait that's right, she doesn't work...."
filthypigs [ban] | Jan 9 09 : 12:51am
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Vulturedoors wrote: "I live in the area where this incident occurred (Oakland, CA). The shooting was accidental"
You're an idiot, living in the area gives you no more perspective on whether or not this was murder or manslaughter. It looks like murder to me, there is no reason for the pig to be pulling his weapon out on a handcuffed person anyway. He should go down for a long time but won't because filth look out for filth.
vulturedoors [ban] | Jan 10 09 : 12:14am
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It gives me more perspective in the sense that the story has been in the local news a lot since it happened, and the local coverage includes a lot more detail.
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I heard "stop resisting" maybe from the crowed or the police and the victim was squirming on the ground. The shooter did look like he intentionally shot, probably mistaking it for a taser. Involantary mandlaughter and negligence. Prison time and a cash for the victims family please.
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I don't know about you but I tend to think that shooting someone with a crowd full of angry people near by isn't the best thing to do no matter what the situation.
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That's the dangers of carrying a Glock. Oops, I accidentally pulled the trigger. Too bad the three redundant safeties Glock boasts are all deactivated by pulling the trigger. But you're good if you drop it.
JelatenusFlymm [ban] | Jan 9 09 : 5:35am
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You don't cock a Glock. It's DAO. Regardless, I see one of the blue meanies who will be guest of the state soon. Take plenty of the ky. "Big Tiny" has a lot of surface area to cover. ![]()
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@Afrobob
When you carry any kind of semi-automatic handgn "cocked and locked" (the preferred and recommended form of carry for many kinds), you are trained to take the safety off as soon as the weapon leaves the holster anyway. There is little in life that is more useless than a drawn weapon with the safety on. So it doesn't matter whether it was a Glock or an XP or a Colt 1911. Once it's drawn, the safety is off.
JelatenusFlymm is also wrong. A Glock's action is, for all practical purposes, Single Action Only (SAO). It must be cocked manually before you pull the trigger for the first time. After that, of course, the recoil from firing it recocks it. It is ridiculously simple to convert a Glock's trigger to a mere 3-pound pull, which you simply can't get with a DAO. That is one reason that DAOs are usually less accurate.
disbelieve [ban] | Jan 9 09 : 8:43pm
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The other officers Might be having second thoughts about convincing the shooter that he had a wireless stun gun.
lottiedyer [ban] | Jan 10 09 : 12:10am
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rsinps obviously didn't pass the second grade. Please don't shoot him lol
jamesbronze [ban] | Jan 10 09 : 1:00am
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This is fucked up.. more about this: http://www.npr.org/templa tes/story/story.p...toryI d=99126602
priscillaxox [ban] | Jan 10 09 : 3:24am
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OMG, who cares, some kid gets shot,big deal.
I did it for the LULZ.
awcooldude [ban] | Jan 10 09 : 3:56am
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gotta love the random black dude "THATS FUCKED UP! THATS FUCKED UP! EH! THATS FUCKED UP!"
awcooldude [ban] | Jan 11 09 : 4:50am
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yea there kind of obnoxias after awhile but i see where he gets off saying all that his "brother" probly had the same thing happen to him
raciast i am not
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I'd hate to live in Beloit Wisconsin too... The most fun you could have there... is running naked through cornfields.. Just as profit stated go to some third world country... North Korea was a great example... You'll be begging for your precious little cornfields back in no time... Fuckin' dolt.
Big Brother [ban] | Jan 10 09 : 2:31pm
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It looks bad!!!! Thats for Damn Sure!!!! "Guns dont kill people...People kill people!!" Your forefinger positioned off the trigger is the best safety!!!
And what was going through the cops mind ...."Tazer or Pistol? Ahh fuck it be wrong once!!"
chrisgreen49 [ban] | Jan 10 09 : 8:04pm
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this is weird! why? the cop looked suprised at the gun going off!
thecritic2007 [ban] | Jan 10 09 : 9:30pm
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looking at this i think thee cop ment to pull out a taser snd by mistake pulled a gun because he looked kind of supriced at the end but i dont know
vincepatrick [ban] | Jan 11 09 : 6:38am
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sad.. we all work to hard in life, no matter what, to get pinned down and shot on new year.
juggernautbfd [ban] | Jan 11 09 : 6:45am
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Kielie. You rank ass ignorant cunt! The USA isn't perfect and that cop is in the wrong for sure and will suffer. Here it is reported and people can see and be outraged by officials doing dirty shit. In most countries you would never hear about such things but they go on with impunity......So, where are you from retard?
juggernautbfd [ban] | Jan 11 09 : 7:04am
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Notice the jealous cocksukers who put down America don't post where they're from. Cocksukin' Pussville is their hometown.
skaterdude [ban] | Jan 11 09 : 1:52pm
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Hey juggernaut, i live in beloit wisconsin on gateway boulevard, I FUCKING HATE AMERICA. I HATE THIS COUNTRY WITH EVERY OUNCE OF HATE THAT I HAVE. AN I ESPECIALLY HATE STUPID FUCKS LIKE YOU THAT DEFEND CROOKED COPS LIKE THIS
thephalseprofit [ban] | Jan 11 09 : 3:50pm
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hey lamerdude, send me your exact name and address and I will glady buy you a oneway ticket to North Korea or Iran.
BrooklynSoulja [ban] | Jan 11 09 : 4:10pm
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FUCK THA COPS!! COPS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ARE FUCKIN SHOOK!! WE BUST BACK BLAAAAAAT
masacra1-mobb [ban] | Jan 12 09 : 1:42am
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pigs thats why we went deep to downtown okaland and burn yo shit 1 by ya goin die watch
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Fuck the police comin straight from the underground
A young nigga got it bad cause I'm brown
And not the other color so police think
they have the authority to kill a minority
Fuck that shit, cause I ain't the one
for a punk motherfucker with a badge and a gun
to be beatin on, and thrown in jail
We can go toe to toe in the middle of a cell
ROCKSHIIIT [ban] | Jan 12 09 : 6:49am
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ANY COP THAT STOP YOU SHOOT THEM IN THE FACE
FUCK THEM ALLL COWARDS
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DrGreenthumbb [ban] | Jan 12 09 : 10:20am
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lol notice how he wasnt struggling after he got shot. maybe they should just do that more to people and then people will listen
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MurderThemAll [ban] | Jan 15 09 : 11:34pm
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i wish i had the money to dispose of ALL the american law enforcement waste.
Dragonfire5195 [ban] | Jan 19 09 : 12:37am
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Whether the gun went off on accident or not is irrelevant. The dude was laying on his stomach about to be cuffed and was unarmed. The cop had no reason to pull his gun from the holster. He's gonna get forked in the arse, and I'm glad.
DOC.DOOM84 [ban] | Jan 19 09 : 1:25pm
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PEOPLE, THERE ARE 1000 TIMES MORE OF US THAN COPS OR GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, THIS IS OUR TIME TO STAND UP AND TAKE CONTROL OF ALL THE FUCKED UP SHIT GOING ON. I CANNOT DO IT BY MYSELF, WE NEED ALL THE HELP WE CAN GET. WE CAN HAVE REAL FREEDOM, WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY IF SOMEONE KNOWS OR CARES, BECAUSE IT WONT MATTER TO ANYONE BUT US. WE HAVE TO STOP BEING SO BLIND. STOP STAYING IN THE DARK TO DENY THE TRUTH, THE DARK WILL FALL APART ONE DAY AND YOU WILL HAVE TO WAKE UP TO REALITY, AND ALOT OF PEOPLE WONT KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH LIFE. THATS WHY WE NEED TO STRIKE NOW, WE HAVE TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION THAT IS GOING ON WITH UNDER THE TABLE DEALING BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENTS AND ALL THE BANKS AND MAJOR CORPORATION BAILOUTS. GET THIS! WITH THE MONEY THAT WE GAVE THE BANKS, THAT AMOUNT WAS ENOUGH TO GIVE EVERY INDIVIUAL IN THE UNITED STATES $200,000.00, WHICH IN HAND WE WOULD OF PAID OFF ALL OUR DEBT INDIVIDUALLY, WHICH IN TURN WOULD OF PAID OFF ALL THE BANKS DEBT, AND EVERYONE WOULD BE DEBT FREE. BUT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT'S NOT THE WAY THINGS WENT DOWN. AND WHY WONT ANY OF THE BANK C.E.O.S TELL ANYBODY WHAT THEY DID WITH THE MONEY, BECAUSE AGAIN ALL THEIR DEBT WAS INITIALLY OUR DEBT, AND I KNOW MINE OR ANYBODY I KNOW DIDNT GET PAID OFF. SO WE HAVE TO TAKE BACK WHATS RIGHTFULLY OURS, NOT SOME RICH GUYS THAT KEEP TAKING FULL ADVATAGE OF EVERY POSSIBLE CHANCE AND PERSON TO MAKE MONEY, INSTEAD OF EVERYONE BEING ABLE TO BUY FOOD FOR THEIR FAMILIES AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY THAT THE POWER ISNT GOING TO BE SHUT OFF. BEING ABLE TO GET AHEAD ONCE IN OUR LIVES AND NOT WORRYING ABOUT THE LACK OF MONEY. THERE ARE MORE WAYS TO HAVE A JUSTICE SYSTEM, BUT NO ONE IS WILLING TO TAKE A LEAP AND LOOK TOWARDS A BETTER TOMORROW, WITH MORE POSSIBILITES OTHER THAT GOING BANKRUPT. THANKS FOR EVERYONES TIME, AND MAY GOD HELP AT THIS TIME OF NEED. LET THIS BE THE START OF A NEW REVOLUTION: THE PEOPLE'S REVOLUTION!
Conjugal Visit [ban] | Jan 22 09 : 7:17am
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Doc.doom,
ALL CAPS...are you ready to unleash the fucking fury?
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the fucking cops on this site are trying to rationalize away the fact that some asshole cop was exposed doing some fucked up shit that they do everyday on American streets and some how were all criminals for mistrusting or disliking them to put it mildly. one irrational justification after another! I guess? whatever helps you sleep at night. when cops and criminals are the same its time to review qualifications for a position that calls for a higher education, self restraint,discipline peoples lives are subjected to the whims of these time bombs with a holier than thou complex. better know as contempt of cop! pigs are hazardous to your health! so as a general rule, fuck the police! ![]()
FallenMonk [ban] | Jan 30 09 : 3:11am
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The only reason why the cop got charged was because he got caught on tape. Not everyone is recorded when they make arrests, so can you imagine what other kinds of shit cops are getting away with?
Bleeding Heart [ban] | Jan 30 09 : 4:19pm
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It's pretty clear the cop was in the wrong and should be punished. Regardless of whether or not it was an accident (to me it was a sad accident). Here in NY state we can't legally say we were in a car "accident" (auto collision". As this would assume no ones at fault. The thinking is that a car should never for any reason get smashed up if the operator was obeying all the driving rules. Same applies here he was trained to use his weapon/tazer he misused them end of story, no "accident". just a sad situation.
desertkid79 [ban] | Feb 11 09 : 8:27pm
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There's no real excuse for what he did. God knows it wasn't self-defence. But i honestly wonder if maybe his dumb ass thought he was deploying a taser shot to his back.
BigBadCopLatentHomo [ban] | Mar 17 09 : 1:52pm
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PEOPLE, THERE ARE 1000 TIMES MORE OF US THAN COPS OR GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, THIS IS OUR TIME TO STAND UP AND TAKE CONTROL OF ALL THE FUCKED UP SHIT GOING ON. I CANNOT DO IT BY MYSELF, WE NEED ALL THE HELP WE CAN GET. WE CAN HAVE REAL FREEDOM, WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY IF SOMEONE KNOWS OR CARES, BECAUSE IT WONT MATTER TO ANYONE BUT US. WE HAVE TO STOP BEING SO BLIND. STOP STAYING IN THE DARK TO DENY THE TRUTH, THE DARK WILL FALL APART ONE DAY AND YOU WILL HAVE TO WAKE UP TO REALITY, AND ALOT OF PEOPLE WONT KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH LIFE. THATS WHY WE NEED TO STRIKE NOW, WE HAVE TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION THAT IS GOING ON WITH UNDER THE TABLE DEALING BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENTS AND ALL THE BANKS AND MAJOR CORPORATION BAILOUTS. GET THIS! WITH THE MONEY THAT WE GAVE THE BANKS, THAT AMOUNT WAS ENOUGH TO GIVE EVERY INDIVIUAL IN THE UNITED STATES $200,000.00, WHICH IN HAND WE WOULD OF PAID OFF ALL OUR DEBT INDIVIDUALLY, WHICH IN TURN WOULD OF PAID OFF ALL THE BANKS DEBT, AND EVERYONE WOULD BE DEBT FREE. BUT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT'S NOT THE WAY THINGS WENT DOWN. AND WHY WONT ANY OF THE BANK C.E.O.S TELL ANYBODY WHAT THEY DID WITH THE MONEY, BECAUSE AGAIN ALL THEIR DEBT WAS INITIALLY OUR DEBT, AND I KNOW MINE OR ANYBODY I KNOW DIDNT GET PAID OFF. SO WE HAVE TO TAKE BACK WHATS RIGHTFULLY OURS, NOT SOME RICH GUYS THAT KEEP TAKING FULL ADVATAGE OF EVERY POSSIBLE CHANCE AND PERSON TO MAKE MONEY, INSTEAD OF EVERYONE BEING ABLE TO BUY FOOD FOR THEIR FAMILIES AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY THAT THE POWER ISNT GOING TO BE SHUT OFF. BEING ABLE TO GET AHEAD ONCE IN OUR LIVES AND NOT WORRYING ABOUT THE LACK OF MONEY. THERE ARE MORE WAYS TO HAVE A JUSTICE SYSTEM, BUT NO ONE IS WILLING TO TAKE A LEAP AND LOOK TOWARDS A BETTER TOMORROW, WITH MORE POSSIBILITES OTHER THAT GOING BANKRUPT. THANKS FOR EVERYONES TIME, AND MAY GOD HELP AT THIS TIME OF NEED. LET THIS BE THE START OF A NEW REVOLUTION: THE PEOPLE'S REVOLUTION!
NAVYDUDE90 [ban] | May 6 09 : 4:52am
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OMFG THIS GUY IS INSAIN AND GOES TO JAIL BECAUSE HE POSTED HIS GIRLFRIENDS PICS ALL OVER THE NET AFTER SHE CHEATED ON HIM!! http://www.ihatecandy.com /?id=8pgxi48mb6r0jiwj8tcq fewqiegga
chrisdunn99999 [ban] | Jun 28 09 : 7:40pm
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All in a days work for Americas most upstanding citizens!!!!!!
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